• • • •• • • •Goto page 1,-::AuthorMessageshofarguyHeavyweight MemberJoined: 18 Sep 2007Posts: 6401Location: AZPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Your Opinons: Holton CollegiateHi, gang,I just got out my student horn to clean it up for a cornet player to use this Easter in our church program. It is a Holton Collegiate from 1970 or '71.The valves look great, but compression is only good.

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There are suction dents in most of the valve slides from years of pulling them w/o plunging the pistons first. There are flattened and dented places along the bell, but I don't think they change the playability.The laquer is worn away in spots from using a brass pollishing cloth on it too many times. The lead pipe came un-soldered years ago, but was put back on. It seems to play very well, actually.I'm curious as to what sort of reputation these horn have. I did the 'search', but it is awkward to use.

If any of you care to give me your opinion, I'd appreciate it.BrianBrian A. DouglasFlip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copperFlip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copperThere is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds.ConnCoprionHeavyweight MemberJoined: 29 Jan 2007Posts: 1617Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Your Opinons: Holton Collegiateshofarguy wrote:Hi, gang,I just got out my student horn to clean it up for a cornet player to use this Easter in our church program. It is a Holton Collegiate from 1970 or '71.The valves look great, but compression is only good.

Holton New Proportion Cornet

There are suction dents in most of the valve slides from years of pulling them w/o plunging the pistons first. There are flattened and dented places along the bell, but I don't think they change the playability.The laquer is worn away in spots from using a brass pollishing cloth on it too many times. The lead pipe came un-soldered years ago, but was put back on. It seems to play very well, actually.I'm curious as to what sort of reputation these horn have. I did the 'search', but it is awkward to use. If any of you care to give me your opinion, I'd appreciate it.BrianHey Brian,My dad's folks bought him a brand new Holton Collegiate back in the mid 60's. Naturally, when I learned how to play, I learned how to play on it.

It wasn't until much later.in fact.much later when I got my Committee that I realized how similar the 'wrap' was.both are pretty small.It's a darker sounding horn.I've heard it called the 'poor man's Committee' here on TH. They do sound VERY similar, but the Committee is just a smidgen darker/richer. The Collegiate comes close.I wonder how much the brass make up.comes into play.It's definitely a fun little horn to play on.in fact you can normally find them for a great price on eBay.The water keys on the Collegiate always crack me up.they're completely upside down.it's the little things in life.Philippians 1:6J.P.S.Veteran MemberJoined: 17 Dec 2005Posts: 150Location: D.C.Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Your Opinons: Holton Collegiateshofarguy wrote:I'm curious as to what sort of reputation these horn have. I did the 'search', but it is awkward to use. If any of you care to give me your opinion, I'd appreciate it.I own a Holton Collegiate Cornet made in the mid 50's. I like it very much.

Even though it is a long model cornet as opposed to a short 'shepherd's crook' model, it has a rather mellow tone very distinct from that of a trumpet. The only problem I have with the Collegiate cornet is that it does not have an adjustable 3rd valve slide. Otherwise, the pitch is very good and it's easy to play.

A good instrument for a young player. If you are interesting in knowing what it would sell for, I suggest doing a search on eBay and take into account its condition.JohnmffanHeavyweight MemberJoined: 23 Dec 2006Posts: 1197Location: Kalamazoo, MiPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject:I have a pretty nice Collegiate cornet from 1953.

Has bottom sprung valves that work well. I don' t have a problem with the wrap size, actually it feels a little roomier than my Roth. I usually play it with a Jet tone or 7c.

The original MP is uncomfortable to play for very long. Of course the MP type makes a big difference in the sound, as has been discussed many times in many threads. On the other hand, I use the original MP of the Roth, which is ideal for the sound I want and is comfortable to play for a long time.

That one cost me about $50 total off Shopgoodwill and is in great condition.I got the Holton last year from someone in California off Ebay for $32 plus shipping. It has one dent in the bell pipe near the 3rd valve casing, but it doesn't affect anything. Nickel accents are in good shape, but lacquer has seen better days.Dave Rafferty Devillier Stencil (German) Besson 6091960's B & H Embassy Trumpet, Besson 2-20,Barrington trumpet.ChaseFanVeteran MemberJoined: 07 Jul 2007Posts: 500Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject:Just a reminder:The Holton Super Collegiate is a completely different trumpet from the Holton Collegiate.Robert Rowe here once said'The Holton Super-Collegiate is one of those rare horns that approximatesome of those qualities we find in the Martin Committee.

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The examples I've played were of very fine build-quality. The Super-Collegiate probably will deliver lotsa satisfaction.'

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